Joe Rogan interviewed Elon Musk again, talking a lot about AI and his DOGE work. I haven’t remoptely seen all of it yet, but a lot of the DOGE stuff is interesting.
Joe Rogan: “Everybody should be celebrating that we’ve found a way to cut out fraud and waste. If you pay taxes, and you don’t like that you have to pay so much in taxes, and then you find out that there’s significant fraud, and waste that’s been exposed you should be celebrating. It shouldn’t be ‘oh no, the wrong people found this fact and now it’s a bad thing.'”
Elon Musk: “Mutilating animals in demented studies, that are like the worst thing you could possibly imagine from a horror show.”
JR: “The beagle puppy one, where they they covered their head in a basket and put fleas on their head so they eat them alive.” Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen.
EM: “The real threat here is to the bureaucracy…[they say] ‘Trump as a threat to our democracy’…but if you if you just replace ‘threat to democracy’ with ‘threat to bureaucracy,’ it makes total sense.”
EM: “DOGE is a threat to the bureaucracy.”
EM: “Normally the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast. This is the first time that they’re not, that the revolution might actually succeed, that we could restore power to the people instead of power to the bureaucracy.”
EM: “We saw one person was getting $1.9 billion sent to their NGO which basically got formed about a year ago.”
EM: “The whole NGO thing is a nightmare, and it’s a misnomer. Because if you have a government-funded non-governmental organization, you’re simply a government-funded organization. It’s an oxymoron.”
EM: “Government-funded NGOs are a way to do things that would be illegal if they were the government, but are somehow made legal if it’s sent to a so-called nonprofit.”
EM: “People cash out these nonprofits. They become very wealthy through nonprofits. They pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits.”
EM: “It’s a gigantic scam. Like, one of the biggest, maybe the biggest, scam ever.”
EM: “I think there a total number of NGOs, probably millions. But in terms of large NGOs, tens of thousands. It’s actually kind of a hack to the system, where you know someone can get an NGO stood up for for a fairly small amount of money, like George Soros.”
EM: “[Soros] is really good at this. George is like a system hacker. Like he figured out how to hack the system. He’s a genius at arbitrage…he figured out that you could leverage a small amount of money to create a nonprofit, then lobby the politicians to send a ton of money to that nonprofit. So you can take what might be a $10 million donation to a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion dollar non-NGO.” So Soros isn’t destroying America with his money, he’s destroying America with our money.
EM: “And then [the] government continues to fund that every year, and it’ll have a nice sounding name like The Institute For Peace, or something like that.”
EM: “It’s a giant graft machine.”
JR: “It’s a giant propaganda machine, a giant regime change machine.”
EM: “Yes.”
EM: “We have continued fund things that appear to be legitimate.” And here’s where I part ways with Elon. “Doing good works in foreign countries” is not a constitutionally enumerated power or responsibility of the federal government, and thus should not be undertaken by the federal government.
Musk notes that we don’t want to donate to a lab that says they’re fighting Ebola only to find out they’re creating mutant strains of Ebola.
EM: “Interest payments on the national debt exceeds the defense department budget, which is truly astounding, which means so we’re paying over a trillion dollars of interest on the national debt.”
EM: “As bad as Twitter was, the federal government is much worse.”
EM: “The federal government is not break. It’s literally losing $2 trillion a year and it fails its own audits.”
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EM: “We have continued fund things that appear to be legitimate.” And here’s where I part ways with Elon. “Doing good works in foreign countries” is not a constitutionally enumerated power or responsibility of the federal government, and thus should not be undertaken by the federal government.
I don’t disagree, but it’s a different fight. Defunding the indefensible is a slam dunk; defunding the stuff that everyone thought they were funding (even if it is constitutionally questionable at best) is a much different fight.
There’s certainly an argument to be made that you should sweep it all out, that you’ll never get a better chance to destroy it. On the other hand, there’s also the possibility that trying that will destroy the whole project. The bureaucrats have been, to date, largely grasping at straws for a narrative that the public will support; they’d be perfectly happy to defend a well-run program with laudable goals if it protects their rice bowls, too.
“Mend it; don’t end it” effectively shields the Deep State from accountability.
It is not enough to prune a few branches from a Kudzu plant; the invasive species must be uprooted before it takes over the native soil.
At no point in history has an overextended Empire ever voluntarily reduced its control. Only by war or financial collapse has its power been curtailed.
The Roman Empire collapsed because of invasion and financial mismanagement. The Kremlin (aka Evil Empire) fell through fiscal impropriety. The Ottoman Empire was defeated military.
The attempt to reign in the American Empire, if successfully, cannot be brought about by half-way measures. It will require revolution.
I don’t disagree, but it’s a different fight. Defunding the indefensible is a slam dunk; defunding the stuff that everyone thought they were funding (even if it is constitutionally questionable at best) is a much different fight.
There’s certainly an argument to be made that you should sweep it all out, that you’ll never get a better chance to destroy it. On the other hand, there’s also the possibility that trying that will destroy the whole project. The bureaucrats have been, to date, largely grasping at straws for a narrative that the public will support; they’d be perfectly happy to defend a well-run program with laudable goals if it protects their rice bowls, too.
@Boobah
“Mend it; don’t end it” effectively shields the Deep State from accountability.
It is not enough to prune a few branches from a Kudzu plant; the invasive species must be uprooted before it takes over the native soil.
At no point in history has an overextended Empire ever voluntarily reduced its control. Only by war or financial collapse has its power been curtailed.
The Roman Empire collapsed because of invasion and financial mismanagement. The Kremlin (aka Evil Empire) fell through fiscal impropriety. The Ottoman Empire was defeated military.
The attempt to reign in the American Empire, if successfully, cannot be brought about by half-way measures. It will require revolution.
Somebody needs to take a deep dive into the Dept. of Energy’s loan programs going back to Obama.
I’ve been watching it since Obama and I continually shake my head thinking “somebody is skimming/scamming this bucket of money.”