If you’ve been following this blog for a a while, very little in this Joe Rogan interview with Dave Smith will be new to you. But this is a nice explanation of how the early part of the Russiagate hoax developed if you weren’t paying attention to the blow-by-blow revelations at the time.
They start out with playing Schumer’s famous clip that the intelligence community has “six ways to Sunday” to get back at you.
They go through the foolishness of the Russiagate hoax, the bogusness of the Steele Dossier, the strangeness of the Carter Page wiretap, and the lies made on the FISA application.
Carter Page “was approached by a group of Russians to see if he would turn and work for them. And the CIA were, like, ‘Yes he was, and he came right back to us and told us about it.’ And then when they were putting in the application for the FISA warrant, the FBI said ‘He was approached by these Russians and the CIA confirmed it.'”
“They’re grasping at straws and it’s very clear they’ve weaponized the legal system against this guy.”
It was determined by the powers that be, you know, with the corporate media, the Deep State, all of the establishment, that he was unacceptable. And that’s not new to Donald Trump. There were a lot of candidates who have been determined to be unacceptable. Ron Paul was was unacceptable. Bernie Sanders was unacceptable. Tulsi Gabbard was unacceptable. And you saw the machine weaponized against all of them to keep them out. But Trump beat the machine. The difference is Trump won… the guy who they determined was not acceptable ended up winning. And part of what was so powerful about that is that it kind of destroyed the illusion of inevitability that I think progressives rely on.
“It doesn’t make people reluctant, it makes people more convinced that there’s a conspiracy against him. It makes people more convinced that there’s corruption that’s fighting against him.”
On the stage where nations play against each other, there are no rules. Not really. And on that stage where there are no rules, there are nasty characters the likes of which the best fiction writers could not even dream of. In such a situation, reasonable people have acknowledged that for nations to survive and thrive, you need some kind of force or organization that can get in the mud and sling filth with the best of them, and you need particular people with particular skills to do the nasty work that needs doing. This is the function of a country’s intelligence agencies, or as I prefer to still call them, the “secret police”.
But their existence in an institutional form does not exist in a vacuum. Those reasonable people – while acknowledging the necessity – aren’t with that acknowledgement expressing their approval of what needs to be done or even its existence. Most would quite frankly say that it’s a shame it’s necessary. So we do what reasonable people have always done and we provide parameters in which those organizations and people operate, parameters that clearly define mission and most importantly, service to the nation and its people. Those boundaries need to be strict, nay should be the strictest and the oversight the most intense, because the access to the information they obtain is so potentially destructive and so ripe for personal abuse.
Everything I’ve just written above is the exact opposite of what the National Intelligence Complex (NIC) and its component organizations like the CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA and State Department believe or value. Nor do I believe these organizations ever have believed or valued, at least not since the end of WWII. We have now with the USA, NATO, and 5-Eyes NIC the most lawlessly powerful and sadisticly knowledgeable group of organizations that have ever existed on earth. Their power is almost godlike. Their connections are extremely strong but also totally covert. They are truly accountable to no one. That should be obvious by now.
Schumer wasn’t lying. They all know. And they also participated. You’re literally hearing the senate majority leader’s subtext, and that subtext is “I work for the NIC, not the other way around.” He is telling you that he takes orders. He doesn’t give them.
Newsflash to fellow commenters or anyone who reads this, there has never really ever been such a thing as a good “secret police”. It always starts out as something but ends up as something else, entirely because of the godlike power information control grants to the recipient. If you work for the orgs I listed above, I do not believe you are ‘one of the good ones’, and if you think you are, it doesn’t matter because clearly your leadership is working on things – we have evidence now – that makes your intent moot and should simultaneously reveal your powerlessness. You are not ‘one of the good ones’ and your org is officially acting as an enemy of the people of the United States. The NIC is actively subverting the will of the American people, Dem or Rep, liberal or conservative, white, black, or pink-polka-dotted. You and your organization are actively using tradecraft, coercive methods, and deception weapons on the American people, and you are whether you like it or not an accompliss.
Nations have rules. Sometimes they have to hire people that don’t. When the people they’ve hired to lack compunction in the service of the nation turn their cupidity on their master, there’s very little the nation can do within the rules…just like a bad cop that’s decided to hold the town that hired them hostage if they don’t get their way. One thing is sure, cause we’ve all seen the movie, to get redress of grievances the people don’t vote their way out to get rid of a bad cop. The United States of America is not an ultimatum. They are most definitely trapped in here with us, not the other way around.
Donald Trump had opportunity to sunset the Patriot Act. He foolishly reauthorized it, which came back to bite him in the shorts.
To hamstring the intelligence agencies, who are clearly in cahoots with the most repressive elements in the political system, all the operative elements of the Deep State will have to be sunsetted, beginning with the FISA (aka Star Chamber) courts. They cannot be reformed; they must be beaten into dust and scattered to the Four Winds.
The “Deep State” has only gotten away with what they have for two reasons: One, nobody really knew what they were doing, and two, what they were doing didn’t matter to enough people.
Gas is over five bucks a gallon, right now. Mostly due to their choice of installed idiot president, Joe Biden.
People are noticing, for the first time in my life. They aren’t happy, either.
This is not something that the Deep State types have taken into account, and when they finally realize how badly they’ve screwed up by becoming noticeable, and causing actual pain to the average member of the electorate? Yeah; Ceaucescu at Timisoara, here we come.
Same thing is happening in China. The CCP thinks it is in charge; they fail to realize that once they lose the Mandate of Heaven, that can change. Quickly. Economic collapse happens, as it looks like it likely will with all these real estate swindles caving in? Yikes… I would not want to be a card-carrying member of the CCP for anything.
History moves, but it rarely moves in ways we want. Nor in the ways we imagine it will.
The real problem with a lot of Marxist thought is just how ignorant most of it is when it comes to human nature. Only a real nutter who’d never actually paid attention to people would think that the average person had enough innate altruism to really work inside a framework of “From each according to his ability, to each according to need…”
Raw fact is that humans are inherently lazy and contrary bastards. Put them in a situation where they’re not directly rewarded for effort, they cease making the effort in pretty short order. Set your system up to rely on the contrary, and it’s bankruptcy, here we come. As China is learning; the entrepreneurial classes don’t bother to entrepreneur much when they’re not getting the rewards of capitalism… So, stasis, here we come. Followed by the usual disasters inherent to centralized political power in China. You’d think they’d learn, but they keep re-inventing the Imperial system with different folks running it. I don’t think the CCP is even going to last as long as the Manchu did…
The day after the November 2020 election, every non-idiot in America knew that Putin wanted Hillary to win.
They knew this because if Putin had NOT wanted Hilary to win, then he would have released some of her intercepted emails, from when she was Sec of State, during the campaign.
Heck, he could have completely made some up and released those. How was the Clinton campaign, which criminally deleted over 30,000 of the emails, going to prove the contents of the released emails was fake?
So it is beyond question that every single gov’t employee involved in the “Trump Russia collusion” “investigation” was a knowing criminal abusing the power of the Federal gov’t.
It is also beyond question that Trump is the pathetic loser who let them get away with this for the entire 4 years of his term (see FBI suppressing Hunter Biden’s laptop).
The reason why I do NOT want Trump as President again is because it’s obvious that if he gets in, the Deep State will beat him again.
Which is why they’re pushing these BS charges. They WANT him to be the GOP nominee, because they know he’s no threat to them
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Trump may well have been a put-up job by the Clintons; I don’t think he really expected to win. He may still be a patsy; I don’t know.
What alternative is there, though? Who could get elected, on the opposite side, assuming that there is one?
I think the real issue here isn’t “Democrat vs. Republican”, but “Kakistocracy vs. The Rest of Us”. So far, the only national-level politician I’ve seen that seems to be on “our side” is Trump, as flawed as he is. He has, at least, done what he said he’d do back when he was running.
God help us, but Trump may be the least bad alternative. Which ain’t saying much.
I honestly don’t see anyone else out there. DeSantis does not seem to be electable, on a national scale. Nor do any of the other Republicans. Honestly? I think “None of the Above” would win everyone’s vote, across the board. Biden is an awful choice, and if he’s running in 2024, I think even die-hard Democrats are gonna be swallowing hard before they check that box…
On the stage where nations play against each other, there are no rules. Not really. And on that stage where there are no rules, there are nasty characters the likes of which the best fiction writers could not even dream of. In such a situation, reasonable people have acknowledged that for nations to survive and thrive, you need some kind of force or organization that can get in the mud and sling filth with the best of them, and you need particular people with particular skills to do the nasty work that needs doing. This is the function of a country’s intelligence agencies, or as I prefer to still call them, the “secret police”.
But their existence in an institutional form does not exist in a vacuum. Those reasonable people – while acknowledging the necessity – aren’t with that acknowledgement expressing their approval of what needs to be done or even its existence. Most would quite frankly say that it’s a shame it’s necessary. So we do what reasonable people have always done and we provide parameters in which those organizations and people operate, parameters that clearly define mission and most importantly, service to the nation and its people. Those boundaries need to be strict, nay should be the strictest and the oversight the most intense, because the access to the information they obtain is so potentially destructive and so ripe for personal abuse.
Everything I’ve just written above is the exact opposite of what the National Intelligence Complex (NIC) and its component organizations like the CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA and State Department believe or value. Nor do I believe these organizations ever have believed or valued, at least not since the end of WWII. We have now with the USA, NATO, and 5-Eyes NIC the most lawlessly powerful and sadisticly knowledgeable group of organizations that have ever existed on earth. Their power is almost godlike. Their connections are extremely strong but also totally covert. They are truly accountable to no one. That should be obvious by now.
Schumer wasn’t lying. They all know. And they also participated. You’re literally hearing the senate majority leader’s subtext, and that subtext is “I work for the NIC, not the other way around.” He is telling you that he takes orders. He doesn’t give them.
Newsflash to fellow commenters or anyone who reads this, there has never really ever been such a thing as a good “secret police”. It always starts out as something but ends up as something else, entirely because of the godlike power information control grants to the recipient. If you work for the orgs I listed above, I do not believe you are ‘one of the good ones’, and if you think you are, it doesn’t matter because clearly your leadership is working on things – we have evidence now – that makes your intent moot and should simultaneously reveal your powerlessness. You are not ‘one of the good ones’ and your org is officially acting as an enemy of the people of the United States. The NIC is actively subverting the will of the American people, Dem or Rep, liberal or conservative, white, black, or pink-polka-dotted. You and your organization are actively using tradecraft, coercive methods, and deception weapons on the American people, and you are whether you like it or not an accompliss.
Nations have rules. Sometimes they have to hire people that don’t. When the people they’ve hired to lack compunction in the service of the nation turn their cupidity on their master, there’s very little the nation can do within the rules…just like a bad cop that’s decided to hold the town that hired them hostage if they don’t get their way. One thing is sure, cause we’ve all seen the movie, to get redress of grievances the people don’t vote their way out to get rid of a bad cop. The United States of America is not an ultimatum. They are most definitely trapped in here with us, not the other way around.
Donald Trump had opportunity to sunset the Patriot Act. He foolishly reauthorized it, which came back to bite him in the shorts.
To hamstring the intelligence agencies, who are clearly in cahoots with the most repressive elements in the political system, all the operative elements of the Deep State will have to be sunsetted, beginning with the FISA (aka Star Chamber) courts. They cannot be reformed; they must be beaten into dust and scattered to the Four Winds.
The “Deep State” has only gotten away with what they have for two reasons: One, nobody really knew what they were doing, and two, what they were doing didn’t matter to enough people.
Gas is over five bucks a gallon, right now. Mostly due to their choice of installed idiot president, Joe Biden.
People are noticing, for the first time in my life. They aren’t happy, either.
This is not something that the Deep State types have taken into account, and when they finally realize how badly they’ve screwed up by becoming noticeable, and causing actual pain to the average member of the electorate? Yeah; Ceaucescu at Timisoara, here we come.
Same thing is happening in China. The CCP thinks it is in charge; they fail to realize that once they lose the Mandate of Heaven, that can change. Quickly. Economic collapse happens, as it looks like it likely will with all these real estate swindles caving in? Yikes… I would not want to be a card-carrying member of the CCP for anything.
The notion that history is moving in a specific, and inevitable, direction, is just from the Marxist roots of the modern left.
History moves, but it rarely moves in ways we want. Nor in the ways we imagine it will.
The real problem with a lot of Marxist thought is just how ignorant most of it is when it comes to human nature. Only a real nutter who’d never actually paid attention to people would think that the average person had enough innate altruism to really work inside a framework of “From each according to his ability, to each according to need…”
Raw fact is that humans are inherently lazy and contrary bastards. Put them in a situation where they’re not directly rewarded for effort, they cease making the effort in pretty short order. Set your system up to rely on the contrary, and it’s bankruptcy, here we come. As China is learning; the entrepreneurial classes don’t bother to entrepreneur much when they’re not getting the rewards of capitalism… So, stasis, here we come. Followed by the usual disasters inherent to centralized political power in China. You’d think they’d learn, but they keep re-inventing the Imperial system with different folks running it. I don’t think the CCP is even going to last as long as the Manchu did…
The day after the November 2020 election, every non-idiot in America knew that Putin wanted Hillary to win.
They knew this because if Putin had NOT wanted Hilary to win, then he would have released some of her intercepted emails, from when she was Sec of State, during the campaign.
Heck, he could have completely made some up and released those. How was the Clinton campaign, which criminally deleted over 30,000 of the emails, going to prove the contents of the released emails was fake?
So it is beyond question that every single gov’t employee involved in the “Trump Russia collusion” “investigation” was a knowing criminal abusing the power of the Federal gov’t.
It is also beyond question that Trump is the pathetic loser who let them get away with this for the entire 4 years of his term (see FBI suppressing Hunter Biden’s laptop).
The reason why I do NOT want Trump as President again is because it’s obvious that if he gets in, the Deep State will beat him again.
Which is why they’re pushing these BS charges. They WANT him to be the GOP nominee, because they know he’s no threat to them
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Let’s assume you’re correct, Greg. What then?
Trump may well have been a put-up job by the Clintons; I don’t think he really expected to win. He may still be a patsy; I don’t know.
What alternative is there, though? Who could get elected, on the opposite side, assuming that there is one?
I think the real issue here isn’t “Democrat vs. Republican”, but “Kakistocracy vs. The Rest of Us”. So far, the only national-level politician I’ve seen that seems to be on “our side” is Trump, as flawed as he is. He has, at least, done what he said he’d do back when he was running.
God help us, but Trump may be the least bad alternative. Which ain’t saying much.
I honestly don’t see anyone else out there. DeSantis does not seem to be electable, on a national scale. Nor do any of the other Republicans. Honestly? I think “None of the Above” would win everyone’s vote, across the board. Biden is an awful choice, and if he’s running in 2024, I think even die-hard Democrats are gonna be swallowing hard before they check that box…
@Kirk
This comment aged fantastically!